What's about the magnetic therapy?

[v-georgiev]

Hello,

Actually, my wife is suffering of SLE...
...And she has painful aches in the muscles and bounds every single day. I just want to help her somehow...
Somebody had wrote in this site that the magnetic therapy is quite good for pain reliefe...and I've decided to buy this apliance. Nikken was pointed as a producer, but what is the right kind of magnetic apliance?
So.... is there somebody to know about it?

hope to hear from you soon,
Val

[balgobin]

Hi Val,
I have tried a Bioflow magnetic bracelet, but for some reason it give seemed to give me a headache, though my Dad uses one for his joints and seems to find it helps. So I think it's a case of try it and see.
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Sheila

[raggedyann1]

Valentin,

I use both nikken and other magnets. They are in conjunction with my pain medication regimen. I have found the mattress, its expensive, helps me wake up without a bunch of stiffness. I was also using the small round nikken disc till my mother found some magnetic bead jewelry for me. I wear a magnetic bracelet around my wrist and a necklace for my neck/shoulder pain. In the past I have used other nikken products like the shoe-insoles and the chair pads.

I strongly suggest you convince the distributor to let you try something like the mattress pad before making such a large purchase adn also check to see who else has them on the market now. I noticed an almost immediate difference when I purchased it in 1995.

I should also say I have Fibromyalgia so I can't say if it is helping both my lupus and fibro or just my lupus. I will also say I have known others with similar problems to mine that got no relief from magnetic products.

Hope this helps,
Karen

[barefut]

Hello Val and welcome,

My mother sold Nikken for awhile and I've tried some of their products and I personally found the magnets to exacerbate my pains.

I tried the shoe inserts and wore them on my back as well. I personally do not recommend them and they are quite expensive as well.

I DO reccommend a memory foam matress! Don't have one. REALLY WANT ONE! Wish I could afford one, probably would never get out of bed if I had one.

Good luck and what a sweetheart you are! Your wife is a lucky lady.

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[chantal]

hey ive gotten the magnetic stuff as gifts before i have to say it seemed to do nothing for me, and if nothing cause me more pain. But everyone is different

[Erskine]

there's also a magnet pad you can google, QRS therapy, i've had it for about 5 years. it works better than steady state magnets as there's no adaptation, and the frequency is adjustable. at certain power levels it can make you feel worse or much better. either way, steady states are old technololgy that are based on economics, and though they do work for some, it's always best to try it first. the qrs is around $2500. try it first. it may not help you at all. i've interviewed alot of manufacturers, and the generalized studies aren't always applicable to sle. i'll check this post to see if you have more questions, i have every book that's been published on the subject. or just email me.

[v-georgiev]

[quote name='Valentin' date='Jan 11 2006, 04:20 PM' post='184174']
Hello,


Hello again and thank you for your opinions!

hm, I am little confused now..
Yes, it will be good to try any magnetic apliance before buy it, but we are livin' in Bulgaria, and here is no Nikken reselers..so may be it's impossible to make such a test.
I've read most of the stories on this site and only one of them had "magnetic therapy" inside and it was realy optimistic. That's why I've decided to collect more information.
Finally, I have magnetic strips like Dr Levine's and we'll try.. Qrs is quite expensive for us..
So, there is another remedies... kalawalla, "golden palm", ... what's about them?

kind regards,
Val

[Erskine]

sorry val, didn't see where you were writing from. my inlaws are in yugoslavia, and money is always a problem. the other options may work for you, i just don't suggest you buy before you try. it's all about the cost effectiveness: if it makes you feel significantly better, it's cheap. if it doesn't, well, it's pretty darn expensive. the qrs was developed in germany, and there is probably a cheap knock-off being offered in hungary, romania or yugoslavia. just try before you buy. i have tons of equipment that helped my patients that didn't have lupus, and didn't help me or the patients i was seeing with lupus. 200k later, i've learned a few things.

hope this helps,
erskine

[raggedyann1]

Valentin,

Remember that none of us are medical professionals and with magnets there is varying research out there. I was told conflicting information regarding electrical use with magnets so none of us have true answers for you.

I will say that the inexpensive bracelet and necklace I am wearing have been doing a fantastic job for me. I rarely wear my wrist braces anymore and my neck muscles do not hurt nearly as often or as long. I say go for it with what you have available and what you can afford. I spent plenty of money as I was going into remission believing the products themselves were responsible for my remission. I wish now I had spent the money to keep seeing a rheumatologist and had remained on Plaquenil during those years. The reason why is that I came out of remission and am far sicker than I ever was the first 7-8 years. Focus on doctors and medication and add the complementary products supplements as your pocketbook allows.

Remember when looking at supplements that many of them can be dangerous when combined with medications we take. One site that contains drugs and herbs is http://www.drugdigest.org I would use that site to check on side effects.

Let us know how your wife does.

[jacqueline]

<span style="font-family:System"> </span><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"> </span> style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/scaredy.gif I asked my chiropractor about magnets and he explained that they are useful for some people but the big thing about them is that people are paying a very big price for something that really costs very little to produce and the company is making a huge profit. He advised purchasing an inexpensive magnetic bracelette, which I did. At first, I thought that it helped but now I am not so sure, but I am still wearing it. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ermm.gif

[joannemc]

Hi, Ive heard about athletes using magnetic bracelets. I was wondering where I could get one to try. Im also going to ask my Dr. about magnetic therapy, I never heard of it. Thanks....Joanne

[sheila t]

<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">Karen style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Thanx.gif for the link very interesting
Hugs Sheila xxx</span>

[moatsville]

Hi, Valentin!

I used to be a Nikken distributor and did quite a bit of research on the topic of magnetics and health. A book that I found to be helpful in understanding the whole thing is: Magnet Therapy: The Pain Cure Alternative. Authors are Ron Lawrence, Paul Rosch, and Judith Plowden. There's some hype on the cover, but the contents are good.

Next, I think it's important to remember that magnet therapy is like "regular medicine" in a very important way: not everyone responds the same way to it. For instance, many people with Lupus are on prednisone; for me, pred makes my joints ache like crazy and I just can't take the stuff. Everyone's different. Your body may or may not respond to magnetics. Mine does.

My mom always told me, "You get what you pay for." In magnetics, it can be the same way. I may be biased, but I'm impressed by a couple simple things. First, Nikken holds patents to its products and their magnetic designs. Those designs are to increase the depth of magnetic penetration. Second, in Japan, their products are deemed to be medical products (rather than alternative therapy). And, probably most important, they do conduct research in the development of their products.

Nikken would tell you that you need to buy their products from an official distributor. As a past distributor and a current eBay seller, I can tell you that their products are readily available on eBay - and generally at a lower cost than the distributors pay.

As for recommendations, since I know their line, I'd say to limit your cost by trying a Nikken mini promo pad. It's about 1-1/2 inches in diameter and either gold or silver in color. You can easily try it on a small area of pain (I use it for sinus pain) to see if you respond to it. If it doesn't work? Turn around and sell it on eBay. I've found there's a steady market for these products. If it does work, you might want to try those insoles. Most people who respond to magnetics find insoles are good 'overall' energy and comfort aids and the cost is still below many of the other products. Larger promo pads are also very handy for lots of aches.

That's my two cent's worth - I'm hoping you find something that will work well for you!

[hazey]

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Interesting thread - I was reading about these things the other day. There is a magnetic wand too, with which you magnetise water before you drink it apparently. I'm still reading around the subject before I buy anything. If anyone has tried the water wand I'd love to hear about it.

Hazel

[stefanie]

I have a magnetic bracelet and I find that the pain in my hand joints aren't so bad, they haven't completly gone away but they are much more managable. So it never hurts to try it the bracelets are not expensive so its great to try, I'm looking into getting the necklace for my headaches.

Also a friend of mine has a magnetic mattress and pillow and swares by it so in time i'll try those too.

Good luck it never hurts to try and the bracelets are quite fashionable i've gotten lots of compliments.


take care