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MichelleAnn
02-08-2007, 06:08 PM
I found this old article I hope it is ok to share, I added it to another post of mine, but it is a great way of sharing the fatigue to others we all share in LUPUS.
I found it funny, entertaining and so so True...

THE TOXIC FATIGUE OF LUPUS
BY GLORIA ROSENTHAL

Almost all lupus patients have heard the phrase "But you don't look sick" and we cringe inside, knowing the speaker's words do not convey the speaker's true meaning: "You can't be so sick if you look so well".

The fatigue that comes with lupus elicits the same reaction. Try to explain the feeling to a friend and the response is often "I get tired, too". I want to pounce on those words and say "tired? You get tired? I want to screech that the fatigue that comes with lupus is as unrelated to a "tired" feeling as a hang nail is to a broken arm. Calling toxic fatigue a tired feeling is like saying a major flood is a minor trickle of water.

So let's talk, first about what lupus fatigue is NOT. It is not a tired feeling. It's not a "want to take a nap" feeling. It's not a "lazy day, think I'll take it easy" feeling. It's not a "wish I didn't have to do this" feeling. What it is: is a full-body exhaustion that makes you feel as if you have no bones, that if you didn't have skin wrapped around your body, you would melt down into nothingness like the Wicked Witch of the West. Or that you are a melting candle, except a candle has a wick and there is nothing in your body that feels that solid. On the other hand, your bones can feel so heavy that lifting your arms to wash your hair in the shower is a chore akin to a weightlifter hefting a 200 pound barbell. His task is easier, though, because as soon as he puts the barbell down, he's through. But after you've soaped your hair, you have to rinse it. That means those bone-weary, heavy arms must be raised again and after the shower, these "barbells" must be toted around all day long for they cannot be discarded like the weight-lifters toys.

Eating too, is an exhausting habit, especially restaurant dining. There must be something in the atmosphere and a three course meal that makes the lupus body say. "Hey hold on there, why are you lifting a fork so many times?" or "You broke off one piece of roll and now you want to exert that physical activity again for another piece?"

The toxic fatigue of lupus also forces you to make major decisions. Will you make yourself a cup of tea, which means dunking that heavy teabag, or settle for a glass of water - and how many ice cubes can you use without making the glass too heavy?

Am I exaggerating? Of course, but just enough to get a point across, a point that the fatigue that accompanies lupus is not like any other feeling. It is indescribable, but I know that as these words are read by my fellow lupoids, heads will bob up and down in instant recognition, though that frantic activity (head bobbing) will create yet another bout of exhaustion.

How do I handle this extreme exhaustion? If I'm home, I get into bed when it hits though the toxic feeling that accompanies the fatigue makes me think that once I do that, I will never be able to get up again. However, experience tells me I will come out of it and will feel better when I do. I never refer to this melting away as a nap; it's my afternoon "coma" and my husband tells me it is almost impossible to wake me. If he must do so, it some times takes ten minutes of gentle shaking (and maybe one minute of bulldozing tactics).

If I'm not at home when it hits, and I push through it from sheer will, it will be with me for the rest of the day. Even if I give in to it later, even if I crawl into bed after it has been with me for hours, I will not shake it. Years of dealing with it has taught me why this is so: the fatigue that comes with lupus hits hard and wants to be pampered but it knows, better than I do, just how much coddling it needs. If I bow to it, I'll revive. If I don't, the fatigue shakes its finger in my face and says "Okay kid, you asked for it; now it's the rest of the day for you". And so for the rest of that day, I am that wicked witch, that melting candle, that weightlifter. I try to work around it. I tell my good friends they have to pick up for lunch out. If I drive to them in the morning, later, with fatigue as my passenger, I will have a foot that's too weak to depress a brake and arms not strong enough to turn a wheel. Some people understand, some never will. Perhaps this will help the ordinary fatigued person see that there is nothing ordinary about lupus exhaustion. I'm glad I'm finished here, because my body is warning me that a bout is coming and I'd better be going. My bed looks inviting and my fatigue will thank me for "putting it there" by giving me a few good hours later on.

Reprinted from News & Views Number 45 - March 1995 Lupus UK.
http://www.elef.rheumanet.org/newsletter/4/a-4gr1.htm

hollyhk
02-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Thank you so much for posting this. I had a toxic fatique day yesterday. I was being evaluated by my supervisor, so I could not go crash for a 30 min. melt in my car.

I did the coma thing when I got home.

I have printed a copy of this article and also bookmarked the link to share with friends and family.

Thanks again. We all need to be validated that what we go through
is not "normal". Hope you are well! HUGS
Holly

Marika
02-08-2007, 08:43 PM
i crashed out tdy, for about 4 1/2 hours. The comments from my kids were the usual have u been running a marathon ect.....very funny...
I shall print the text and give it to them.

Thanks
Marika
:):)

zara
02-09-2007, 04:36 AM
Thanks for posting, Michelle.

sunflowergirl2
02-09-2007, 05:22 AM
Thanks for the post, Michelle. Have never heard the fatigue described so accurately! Will share with family and friends. Thanks, Cathy

RachelSut
02-09-2007, 09:52 AM
I'll add my thanks too!!! Will show it to all those who say 'yes, I'm tired today too'!!:rotfl:
Rachel xx

janwet
02-09-2007, 02:16 PM
This is a perfect description of how I am feeling today - just getting up is an effort hopefully it wont last too long. At least now I know I am not completely mad or alone.

neongirl
02-09-2007, 03:03 PM
Great article! Thank you so much for posting this! Whenever I have said I am feeling tired in the past, my family members immediately responded with "so am I", etc. etc. this explains it so much better:)

Grerimar
02-09-2007, 03:58 PM
wow,wow,wow...too tired to write more...:( :(

balla
02-09-2007, 04:17 PM
I am unsure if i'm able to post this i wrote it myself as people annoy me when saying you look fine...And feel like shouting you want to be in my body and i will have yours.

Living With Nuerological disease

As I wish from day to day
This silent illness will go away
It takes my legs and my eyes
It destroys my brain and my spine
One way or another it takes my mind.

Pain and misery I do feel
Knowing this illness will not heal
Doctors, Nurses I do see
Steroids injected into me.

I’m sick of everyone saying I look fine
As they don’t understand this world of mine
Living in this living ****
That no one knows the pain I tell.

And as my memory starts to go
Simple tasks I need be shown
Like needing help to cross the road.

Thanks to David, I’m not alone
Because he has a heart of stone
And for him I learn to cope
I know I’ll never give up hope.

well i'm unsure if i was able to post it but sorry if i'm not thanks sue xx

MichelleAnn
02-09-2007, 05:03 PM
Beautiful, so real Poem!!


:bunny:

balla
02-10-2007, 11:22 AM
Thanks hun i wrote it while i was annoyed at people saying i look great this illness is not unless have skin involvement seen as such,

I was in hospital waiting to be seen to make another appoinment last month to go back in april (13th):( when i started chating to someone that was stood behind me although i was in wheelchair and i was talking about kidney problems as that is what her husband was there for and told her about my kidney removal and

she asked what you in a wheelchair for i told her about lupus and nuerosarcoidosis and she said well you look well to me...But also said but you can walk though(i felt like saying yes but i'm lazy what a stupid ans i wouldn't be sat in one if i didn't need it).

So the fact i'm not aggressive and need to let my feelings out i just write poems that have been put into books and won comps this was just one out my head in annoyance.

Paulin46
02-10-2007, 05:28 PM
Thanks for sharing that with us Balla. Is that a picture of you in the avatar?

balla
02-10-2007, 06:26 PM
hi pauline, no hun my little girl well not so little 14,She has raynauds and epilepsy.

Bemetrius
02-10-2007, 07:13 PM
Extreme Exhaustion even after a good nights rest. Napping doesn't releave it.. Lying down and not been able to answer the phone even if its right beside you. Opening my eye lids, to heavy to lift.. thats the exhaustion I have. Someone get the phone cause I can't then I just don't have the energy to even hold a conversation.. Eating is exhausting. out of breath all the time.. lifting my arm up to grab the converter to change the channel exhaustng.... Then it amazes me that some days its better and im up and about... funny thing to explain.... I look good so i can't be sick...

B:)

MichelleAnn
02-10-2007, 07:30 PM
I think that is why when I read this article, I could relate exactly to what it said...and its difficult to explain it to others without being defensive so we suffer in silence rather than using energy to explain....then the person you explain it too either rolls their eyes or just agrees and still says, yeah I did not sleep well last night i am tired too!!! grrrrrr, why do we even try to explain?? I know you here all understand the fatigue, I know I understand yours!!...going to lay down myself now. I am happy to get one thing partially accomplished today, not 10 things fully accomplished in a day, how my priorties have changed. Take Care!! :hehe:

Aligray
02-11-2007, 06:06 AM
Wow! Boy does that article hit it dead on! That is exactly how i have been feeling the last couple of months! It just doesn't ever end! I know she was exagerating to get the point across but it is so true that just the littlest things will exhaust you!

Thanks again for posting!

Aligray
02-11-2007, 06:14 AM
I think that is why when I read this article, I could relate exactly to what it said...and its difficult to explain it to others without being defensive so we suffer in silence rather than using energy to explain....then the person you explain it too either rolls their eyes or just agrees and still says, yeah I did not sleep well last night i am tired too!!! grrrrrr, why do we even try to explain?? I know you here all understand the fatigue, I know I understand yours!!...going to lay down myself now. I am happy to get one thing partially accomplished today, not 10 things fully accomplished in a day, how my priorties have changed. Take Care!! :hehe:

It is so great to be here and read these responses. After months of feeling completely alone in this! Just reading this reply is exactly how i feel. No one understands if they have never experienced this. It is so taxing just to do the most simplest of tasks! I also no longer do 10 things in a day. The basic tasks of bathing and dressing is taxing enough! It's amazing what this disease can do to you. Yes, I also look normal and i hear that all the time. No one at work understands b/c they have known me for five years and i still look the same. So why is it that i can't do the things i used to?... they will say to me. They just don't get it. Seems like it is all in my head. Good thing i know it isn't.

belladonna
02-11-2007, 06:47 AM
It’s just to hard for me to push through the atmosphere some days.
I feel like Atlas, trying to hold up the weight of the world.
That’s what I tell people.

Paulin46
02-11-2007, 02:39 PM
hi pauline, no hun my little girl well not so little 14,She has raynauds and epilepsy.

What a beautiful little girl........:wink2:

RachelSut
02-11-2007, 09:52 PM
Sue,

I loved your poem :) - i also write bits from time to time and was interested by what you said about competitions and books. How did you get into that? Where could I go to find out about being published?

Rachel xx

Soundy
02-11-2007, 10:22 PM
The article was great and describes me to a T

I have tried to tell people that sometimes I have to lay down and drop into a coma... it isn't a choice...Oh I feel tired I am taking a nap...feeling I just conk out...

I had several appointments in one day...I got in at 1:30 went to straight to bed ...The kids came in from school at about 3 and woke me up to say hi and I went right back to sleep... They ended up crawling in bed with me and watched TV til my husband came in, as I slept...He did home work with them and made dinner ...He woke me up around 8 to get food in me and make me take my regular clothes off and into a gown (didn't manage a shower) and right back to bed by 8:30...I got up about 5:30am as usual and felt tired but not the knocked out cold feeling

I copied this to for a few that have a hard time understanding the overwhelming tiredness that hits and isn't cured with a 30 minute nap....
Thanks

Weese
02-12-2007, 07:20 AM
Michelle, Hello and thanks for the article. i have saved it to my computer. my husband is very supportive but when i tried to explain the fatigue he kept insisting he understood exactly what i was saying as he gets exhausted too.

I really only have a mild case compaired to so many here. My symptoms are joint pain and fatigue and only the occasional butterfly rash with too much sun. This fatigue is not as frequent since starting the plaq. but it is not like any fatigue i ever had before the lupus.

I do think he was trying to be supportive. He suggests naps if i am trying too hard to just keep going. He also remindes me not to over do but you know how somethings just peeve you off! I did shut up, thank god! He really isnt trying to peeve me off!

what is that book? women are from venis men from mars? :rotfl: . Lisa

AmandaB
02-12-2007, 01:46 PM
Hi

Fatigue is how I measure how 'ill' I am feeling. When I lay/sit in bed and try to decide if I really need to go to the toilet, how long it will take me and if I can get back off okay - that's when I know I feel REALLY rubbish and need to rest! It's normally at this point I get an attack of the weepies and feel sorry for myself too.....

If I have a pain I can take an extra pill but trying to combat fatigue is another thing altogether.

Amanda

mara
02-12-2007, 02:56 PM
This article certainly hits home. Last Saturday I went to sleep at 7 pm and did not more until noon the next day, people will say, how can you sleep for 15 hours. I get tired of telling them that by the end of the week after working 40 - 45 hours, driving my teenage son back and forth to his part time job and doing what needs to be done at home, my body just shuts down. My husband is great and there is so much that he does as well but as a parent, wife, person - there are things that we feel we have to do and I am the type that will push myself all week and then loose the weekend to sleep. Sometimes I feel guilty because I just don't have the energy on the weekend to do those extra chores I planned. My husband does the floors and the laundry, my kids will take care of the dishes and dusting, but who else will scrub those toilets? :eek:

Thank you so much for this article, it is excellent!!

Tammy