Can Trama cause Lupus?
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Hi Karol,
For me, i believe i had lupus since a teen. But when tramatized by both parents dying and husband divorcing in the same year. I think that was the feeding grounds for the lupus to kick in full force. Because that was when i started having more and more problems. It still took them a couple of years to find the problem.
If I am correct in saying, i believe i read somewhere that trauma can set off lupus and or fibromyalgia.
For me, i believe i had lupus since a teen. But when tramatized by both parents dying and husband divorcing in the same year. I think that was the feeding grounds for the lupus to kick in full force. Because that was when i started having more and more problems. It still took them a couple of years to find the problem.
If I am correct in saying, i believe i read somewhere that trauma can set off lupus and or fibromyalgia.
I'm with Sadie. I had little troubles throughout my life, always treated and would go away. Then when I was about 30, bought my first house and the stress of that got the Lupus going. So I don't believe trauma can CAUSE Lupus, but if you have Lupus, even if it hasn't shown itself yet, trauma/stress can give it the oppertunity to kick in/flare. I know I always try to avoid stress and when I go through a period of it I know I'll be getting a flare later!
-Eric
-Eric
I definitely think there is a connection. If strss is a factor in Lupus, then trauma would certainly be a factor.
I may have had Lupus long ago. I had blood clots in my lungs when I was a young adult. I had no other symptoms that I can think of. I had a DVT for no apparent reason several years after that. Then I had a DVT the whole length of my leg 4 years ago when I broke my leg. I was on a preventative dose of lovenox at the time! Then 2 1/2 years ago, I had 2 huge clots; one in each lung. I had 4 doctors tell me I was lucky to be alive. Then a few weeks later, I had 4 litres of fluid in my left lung that had to be drained through a chest tube. After removing the fluid, I didn't feel any better. I also had fluid around the heart which would not be caused by the blood clots. That's what lead them to Lupus (serasitis). My ANA was positive and lupus coagulant (which isn't related to lupus) and other stuff. So, the trauma of the clots certainly had something to do with it as far as I'm concerned and the doctors. We're just not sure which came first.
Just my thoughts.
Nutty
P.S. I forgot to mention that I had just through an extrexmely stressful period with work. We were under pressure to get regulations passed for an extremely important program. I was working 7 days a week and evenings as well. So this could have also contriubuted to my Lupus diagnosis.
I may have had Lupus long ago. I had blood clots in my lungs when I was a young adult. I had no other symptoms that I can think of. I had a DVT for no apparent reason several years after that. Then I had a DVT the whole length of my leg 4 years ago when I broke my leg. I was on a preventative dose of lovenox at the time! Then 2 1/2 years ago, I had 2 huge clots; one in each lung. I had 4 doctors tell me I was lucky to be alive. Then a few weeks later, I had 4 litres of fluid in my left lung that had to be drained through a chest tube. After removing the fluid, I didn't feel any better. I also had fluid around the heart which would not be caused by the blood clots. That's what lead them to Lupus (serasitis). My ANA was positive and lupus coagulant (which isn't related to lupus) and other stuff. So, the trauma of the clots certainly had something to do with it as far as I'm concerned and the doctors. We're just not sure which came first.
Just my thoughts.
Nutty
P.S. I forgot to mention that I had just through an extrexmely stressful period with work. We were under pressure to get regulations passed for an extremely important program. I was working 7 days a week and evenings as well. So this could have also contriubuted to my Lupus diagnosis.
On the other side of the coin... in my case life was great and I was happy for years until all of a sudden here came lupus. But many people here have reported especially emotional stress as being high near the time of developing lupus; and there is some research suggesting stress effects the immune system which could make conditions more favorable for lupus to "show itself".
There's never a perfect relationship though between just about anything beyond simple mathematical equations - so I had to throw my experience into the mix so you got the other side of the coin
There's never a perfect relationship though between just about anything beyond simple mathematical equations - so I had to throw my experience into the mix so you got the other side of the coin
I have read numerous times about stress triggering Lupus but never trauma.
I meant something like falling and hitting your head..............and then problems start leading to a dx of Lupus.
Anyway, thanks for all of your opinions and insight here.
Much appreciated.:wink2::wink2::wink2:
I meant something like falling and hitting your head..............and then problems start leading to a dx of Lupus.
Anyway, thanks for all of your opinions and insight here.
Much appreciated.:wink2::wink2::wink2:
Any form of assault/ trauma that can rev up or stress the immune system can apparently trigger lupus in the genetically predisposed or cause a flare up. It might be an accident, pregnancy and childbirth, infections, surgery, extreme dieting, environmental factors and toxic exposures, some medications, lack of sleep and very poor life style habits,even a too fatty diet, you name it, it's possible. There might be several factors in any one case. I have heard it compared with being dealt a particular hand of cards.
Very often people realise on looking back that they have had lupus symptoms all along.
Cheers
Clare
Very often people realise on looking back that they have had lupus symptoms all along.
Cheers
Clare
Hi Karol
I personally believe there to be a correlation between a couple of episodes of extreme stress (both mental and physical) and the flares that I have experienced. I have found however that they didn't rear their heads at the peak of the rough spell when I was already very low, but some months later when everything settled down and life was good, which I find especially insulting!
Freya
I personally believe there to be a correlation between a couple of episodes of extreme stress (both mental and physical) and the flares that I have experienced. I have found however that they didn't rear their heads at the peak of the rough spell when I was already very low, but some months later when everything settled down and life was good, which I find especially insulting!
Freya
I personally believe that physical or emotional stress can bring out an already existing condition just waiting to show itself.
In my case I went into my first non remitting serious Lupus flare which led to diagnosis after having major surgery. (In retrospect had first lupus symptoms 24 yrs prior though )
So yes physical trauma no matter what form could certainly bring out the disease.
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Lily
In my case I went into my first non remitting serious Lupus flare which led to diagnosis after having major surgery. (In retrospect had first lupus symptoms 24 yrs prior though
)So yes physical trauma no matter what form could certainly bring out the disease.
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Lily
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I didn't have a long period of trauma but my symptoms started 2 days after a serious allergic reaction to shellfish when I was 9. I got kicked out of a remission by (I believe) the stress that accompanied our trip to Ireland (expired passports! missed planes! kid behind me kicking my seat for 7 hours!) along with the panicking about starting college in 3 weeks. So I can definitely draw a connection between stress and flares.
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Mine came after a really bad bout of Mono, about 13 years ago.
So i guess anything can set this mess off.
Pam
So i guess anything can set this mess off.
Pam
I have heard of this plenty of times in the past, people get Mono and then something else AI to follow.bamagirl79;517034 said:Mine came after a really bad bout of Mono, about 13 years ago.
So i guess anything can set this mess off.
Pam
Mono can really play around with our immune systems and in some people it goes one way or another. I must admit to having constant lupus like symptoms grumbling away after mono in my early 30's.
My nephew also had it in his late teens then after about the same time span as me he went the other way and was diagnosed with Lymphoma.
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Lily
My nephew also had it in his late teens then after about the same time span as me he went the other way and was diagnosed with Lymphoma.
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Lily
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I believe that stress can trigger lupus. After going thru a nasty divorce and my father dying, after many complications after open heart surgery (I was the one that was always called when he got worse, and make all the decisions), I developed lupus! Cathy:sad:
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