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Greetings to all here. I'm new to the board, but from looking at other posts, you all seem like a very friendly and helpful bunch.

Let me give you a little bit of background. I'm a 26 year old female. I'm not very physically active. I've been having "problems" for many years now.

I always feel tired, regardless of how much sleep I actually get. I can get 10+ hours sometimes, and still feel tired. Same with more normal amounts like 6 or 8.

I've been an insomniac for around 8 years now. It generally takes me more than an hour to fall asleep, and I wake up several times throughout the night (usually to use the restroom), and it takes at least half an hour to go back to sleep.

Very frequent headaches since childhood, sometimes sinus, sometimes migraine.

Random joint pain for the past 8 years or so, worsening now. These pains range from dull ache, to throbbing, and occur mostly in my wrists and knees, though often also in my knuckles. I don't notice any swelling with it in my wrists, but when my knuckles are bothering me, they do look a little swollen.

Frequent urination for about 3 years now. It, too, is worsening. There is no pain involved. It's worse at night, with me having to get up every hour or so to relieve myself.

I'm very sun sensitive. If I'm out in the sun for more than 5 or so minutes, my face gets very red (not sunburnt), and I get even more fatigued and feel faint and dizzy. The symptoms go away after an hour or so out of the sun.

Previously I'd been to the doctor for the headaches and the joint pain. Diagnosed with migraines, and the doctors didn't do any more than that electrical current test (for carpal tunnel syndrome) regarding the joint pain.

The reason I'm here today is because I have had canker sores inside my mouth for about 2 weeks now, that are not healing, and more are developing. These hurt quite a bit. I did some checking into them (which is how I learned that they aren't cold sores, and whatnot), and that's where lupis was mentioned. So I started doing some research into the symptoms of lupis. Unfortunately, all the information I'm getting is generally too technical for me to understand, though what I do understand leads me to think that lupis is a possibility.

I went to a doctor yesterday. Just a general family practice type (I just moved here, so I don't have a primary). I mentioned that I thought it was possibly lupis, and gave him the whole history that I gave above. He told me since I didn't have the facial rash that he highly doubted it was lupis, but ordered a "Lupis Panel" of blood work (only two tubes). He didn't address any of the problems except the canker sores, which he prescribed "Magic Mouth Wash" for.

It was my impression that the butterfly rash, while commonly seen with lupis, is not always present.

I am here to ask for opinions from people who are knowledgeable in this, and understand that not everyone went to Med school. Do my symptoms sound potentially like lupis (or another autoimmune disease) or am I just being a hypochondriac like my doctor implied?

I appreciate your time for reading my wall of text.

Thank you,
Chae
 

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I think it's very reasonable to at least investigate the possibility of some autoimmune cause for your symptoms with some bloodwork and even a trip to a rheumatologist (regardless of what results come back from the 2 tubes!). Given how long you've been suffering from these symptoms, and the constellation of symptoms you have it is perfectly reasonably to look into it. Physicians don't like it when a patient comes in appearing to have self diagnosed from the internet... we have heard many stories from many people like you who saw a doctor and have been dismissed without much investigation.

The lupus malar rash does come and go... and only about 50% of lupus patients will *ever* have the malar rash. If yours should appear again then you may want to take pictures of it to show the doctor you see next about your illness. A picture can tell a story of 1000 words after all. Plus, these rashes do have a knack of disappearing just in time for a doctor's appointment it seems.

Do you have any family history of autoimmune disease of any type? {RA, MS, lupus, etc.?} I would recommend asking to be referred to a rheumatologist, as that doctor may be more likely to run the full gamut of blood tests that should be run, as well as know which things to look for in your physical exam and medical history...

The other thing I thought of when I read your post was to ask if you have lived in a tick endemic area or visited there. Northeast US, Wisconsin, and other areas in the US are particularly hard hit with Lyme for instance, but all areas have ticks and have some sort of tick borne illness that can cause many of your symptoms. Just something else to think about...

Good luck to you - I hope you have now started down the path to figuring out what is wrong after all this time & will soon move on to some truly helpful treatment for it.

PS You may want to request a copy of the bloodwork that was run and any run in the past. Then you will know what has been run, and what hasn't, and any values that were out of range.
 

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One thing that jumps out at me is your overactive bladder. It sounds like it needs some investigating. I recommend getting an urinalysis. It is definitely not normal to be getting up every hour at night. You might find the following site interesting:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/overactive-bladder/DS00827

Only you know what is normal for your body. I wouldn't give up just because one doctor dismisses your symptoms. A second opinion might be a good idea.

Take care,
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Hello and Welcome here.
The sun sensitivity may also be very significant. You are quite right re. the malar rash. We will all help you by translating anything you can't understand, but if you do have Lupus you will soon become very knowledgeable.
x Lola
 

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Lazylegs said it all in that YOU know what is right and wrong with your own body. If you do not feel well then press forward until you get answers.

Maia is right in that doctors are not crazy about patients that self diagnose based on internet findings yet I am a firm believer that knowledge is power and helps us to move forward in a medical diagnosis.

If your not crazy about this doctor then I am sure a local hospital has a physician referral service that can help you. Reach out to them and find out and you may want to seek a local support group for more information and possibly new friendships too.

You have found a great place to come to for support, knowledge, friendships and much more. I have learned so much from the people here on this site I just never imagined that when I joined here.

I hope to get to know you better and join us in the chat room sometime.

By the way, I love your name.:wink2::wink2::wink2:
 

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Hi there, and welcome to this great site. Most of the important stuff has been said, but I just wanted to tell you that we all start out feeling that we are "imiagining
things" and a great deal of us keep feeling that way on and off. But what you need to do is follow your gut, and make a list of your symptoms. You can ask anything here,cuz we are all here to help and support everyone else. So keep posting,and the most important thing is -remember "Stress=Pain." so smile, and pace yourself.
 

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Thank you to all of you for your wonderful responses. It's helping me to feel better, though I'm still jittery as all get out waiting for test results (almost said test scores, hehe).

Maia, I've not heard anything about ticks being where I live (Northern Utah). I visited Minnesota last year during the dead of winter, though. Are ticks still around in the winter?

Lazylegs, I asked the doctor if a urine test was a good idea (mostly 'cause I had to go at the time, and was tired of holding it). He told me he didn't think it was significant because I drink caffine, though I told him I stop that at 6pm (going to bed around 11-12).

And thank you for your kind words and support, Lola, Karol and Halfpint. My name is from the old Ultima games, I can't remember exactly how it tied in though. I always just liked how it sounds. I just want to say again, thank you so much, all of you.
 

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I did a quick google search and found a site for you to peruse:

http://utahlyme.org/

They have some interesting links to the CDC and a nice layout of symptoms and misdiagnoses. I'm not saying this is what you have - but a good rheumatologist will want to rule it out before diagnosing lupus. And I think it's worth you seeking out specialist care if you have to - to adequately ensure this possibility has been ruled out.

As for tick bite during the dead of winter... not too likely. Not impossible - but not very likely. Most tick bites will happen during the Spring and especially during the middle of the summer.

Good luck to you... I hope you will keep us posted on your progress in getting some answers and help for your symptoms.
 
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