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Hello Nicky ! :)
We were posting this at the same time so I have deleted mine which read

"Which" is the UK consumer watchdog organisation. They have just published a report on sunscreens. The SPF rating refers only to UVB protection and we need broad spectrum which includes UVA. UVA protection is indicated by in the UK by stars - I think 5 is the maximum/ All the same I thought this was interesting and shows how careful one needs to be.
According to which Tesco SPF15 only provided an SPF of 12; Malibu High Protection SPF 15 was only 10.2 and M&S 15 was only 7.5, according to "Which" tests.

In contrast they found that Sainsbury's SPF 15 rated a 20.2 and costs only £3.
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Other highly-rated brands included Asda Sun System, Garnier Ambre Solaire Clear Protect, Nivea sun Moisturising Sun Spray, Boots Soltan Moistruing Sun Care Lotion and L'Oreal Solare Expertise Advances Anti-Ageing Sun Protection Lotion.
Tesco and M&S defended their products, saying they were tested to high standards.
(SkyNews report via Yahoo)



We can get prescription sunblocks on NHS if prescribed by specialist. Ask your pharmacy for details - GPs and even specialists usually don't know which are available on Prescription. I get the Australian Sunsense and am very pleased with it- it is invisible. Note that it is probably on the GP's list as SPF50, not SPF60, for some mysterious reason but that doesn't matter.



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I wonder how they test SPF factors? Years ago I remember being told that above factor 15 they were all pretty much the same, but these days they are commonly marketed at much higher than that. Has technology advanced? I guess so, at least most products are better than what I had as a kid - zinc or something made up in alcohol which really stung:eek:.

Clare, where do you buy sunsense?
In Australia recently I had Australian skin cancer foundation sunscreen which was pretty good and stayed on well in water. Thanks little sister for that8)

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Thanks for the link Nicky. :foryou:

Clare,

You are so right about docs being unsure of which suncreams are available however it was the first thing my new rheumy mentioned when he saw me. :lol:

I'm sure he said there were only 2 available on prescription - SunSense and Roc and that there was no real difference between them.

With reduced prescription charges here and my annual certificate it's worth my while getting my GP to prescribe SunSense for me next time I go.

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SenSense is excellent!! I've had far fewer skin problems since getting it prescribed! Highly recommnend it

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Thanks for posting that :)

Cath I have always wondered the same thing about the SPF rating. We don't commonly have any ratings here in Australia over SPF30 and it's only the last few years that has come about.
From what I have just read there's not much difference in protection percentage wise from an SPF15 to SPF60.


  • Factor 15, only 7% of the harmful UVB rays will get through
  • Factor 30, only 4% of the harmful UVB rays will get through
  • Factor 60, only 2% of the harmful UVB rays will get through
http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=5508#law

Most people don't apply adequate sunscreen to start with, so it won't give them the stated protection, it needs to be applied thickly and left 15-20 minutes before venturing out. They are also under the false impression that the higher the factor, the longer they can stay out! It's not something they want to encourage here due to our incredibly high rate of skin cancer. It must be Broad Spectrum as stated protecting against UVA & UVB. It must also be reapplied regularly during the day, moreso if swimming or if you are sweating a lot.


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There are about six prescription sunscreens available on the NHS and I really must pull my finger out to find the list. Neutrogena is one that I know some members are pleased with. There might be a Vichy one too but my pharmacist looked them up for me.

Sunscreen really is the last line of defence, after avoidance and other forms of protection such as clothing. "Slip, slap, slop" in that order : slip on clothing slap on a hat & glasses and slop on the sunscreen. It should be used indoors and out, summer and winter.

For photosensitive people there is no such thing as safe tanning. Tanning equals damage. All the tans you see on the stars are fake - they don't risk damaging their skin and their careers, not the women anyway.

The top ingredient to look for is still Mexoryl but I don't think the prescription ones include any with this ingredient. This is the time of year to keep an eye out for 2 for 1 offers at Boots.

Take care :)

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You mean BOGOF! Buy One Get One Free :rotfl:

Sorry I just couldn't resist to see if the automatic censor picked it up. :lol:
 

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that reminds me, I better stock up on some more sunscreen for my holiday - mid winter down here so we are all bundled up but it will be summer (I Hope !) when i get to Canada in July.

I can't remember what the one I like is called (I just swapped brands) but I do know I can buy both sunsense and nivea in new zealand, so I will check them out.

I am very blessed to be not particularly sunsensitive, unless my joints are acting up and then the sun can make my joints kick up even more (if that makes any sense at all).

cheers

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Does any one know anything about Daylong sunscreen ? It is meant to last 8 hours, but the idea makes me a little nervous coz I am so used to having to reapply the stuff ......

Any studies out there on it ?
 

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Raglet,

Last year I used Piz Buin 1 day long - available in different SPF it worked for me a the kids - no sunburn or rashes. Think it last 6 hours, does stay to re-apply if you feel necessary as well! This one i've also used on face as not too greasy or thick!

We have also used P20 - this also worked, but I found it stained clothing! Lasts about 12 hours!

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Ones I've read can say 'day long' but when you read the small print they give other advice (less hours)!

We have to remember there are many marketing ploys used to intice people to buy products!

Its the same as food, what they say on the front isnt always what in it and so on.........

I don't know about others but I can feel when my skin is starting to cook a bit and will always apply more sunscreen - but then again I dont sunbathe so just have limited exposure anyway!
 

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I just want to say how fortunate the NHS picks up for your sunscreen.
Here in the states I use Neutragena and like it.

I was want to stress what Clare said, use sunscreen inside and outside!! Use it while driving and running errands!!

I know I get very passionate about this subject, but the sun has caused me sooooooo much damage, please protect yourself!

I just read that sunscreen only has a shelf life of 6 mos.
I thought previously it was a year-how things change to make us spend more money.:( Mark those BOGOF bottles:lol:

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thanks Lily ! I will do a price comparison with Sun Sense - gotta say though, I can buy nivea sunscreen at the supermarket which makes it cheaper, and nivea seems to have a good ranking so maybe that is the way to go. I have been using aqua sun for ages, and that seems to work pretty well for me.

The Daylong stuff is tempting though - sounds like I need to get the SPF 30, then probably reapply it more often then the bottle says .....

I was reading the back of a 125ml Sun Sense bottle ($13 NZ) - it said use 30 mils per application - well that is only four applications per bottle, but then I guess that is for people lying on the beach with a bikini on rather than those of us doing our exposed bits.........

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I use Piz Buin 30 all day Raglet!
 

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I know that we should always use sun screen regardless as to where you are, but did anyone see "the one show" on BBC1 during the week where they were talking about sunscreen and how much you should actually use. For a family of 4 they should use about 21 bottles in a I think a week using about 1/6th of a bottle each time on each person. How many of us actually use this amount at any one time? I know I don't.
 

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I definitely don't use 1/6 of a bottle, and I slop the stuff on. And often I am slopping it all over my daughter as well.

That made me laugh - 21 bottles per week - is this a sales pitch or what !

muahahahahaha

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Hello Nicky !
We were posting this at the same time so I have deleted mine which read
Cllllairee, scary but oh so cool.

I do love a good coincidence. :)

Nicky
 
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